Charlemagne to Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk

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==Descent 1==
 
==Descent 1==
#Charlemange, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
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#Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
 
#Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
 
#Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
 
#Winilda (Guinidilda) de Ampurias living 877 (actually her ancestry is unknown)
 
#Winilda (Guinidilda) de Ampurias living 877 (actually her ancestry is unknown)
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==Descent 2==
 
==Descent 2==
#Charlemange, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
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#Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
 
#Berthe of /France/ died 829 + Angilbert "The Saint" of /Ponthieu/
 
#Berthe of /France/ died 829 + Angilbert "The Saint" of /Ponthieu/
 
#Arsende of /Ponthieu/ + Remigus, Count of /Rheims/ (*line probably breaks here*, the connection from Arsende to Bertha is doubtful)
 
#Arsende of /Ponthieu/ + Remigus, Count of /Rheims/ (*line probably breaks here*, the connection from Arsende to Bertha is doubtful)
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==Descent 4==
 
==Descent 4==
#Charlemange, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
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#Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
 
#Berthe of /France/ died 829 + Angilbert "The Saint" of /Ponthieu/
 
#Berthe of /France/ died 829 + Angilbert "The Saint" of /Ponthieu/
 
#Arsende of /Ponthieu/ + Remigus, Count of /Rheims/
 
#Arsende of /Ponthieu/ + Remigus, Count of /Rheims/
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==Descent 5==
 
==Descent 5==
#Charlemange, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
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#Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
 
#Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
 
#Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
 
#Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
 
#Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
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==Descent 6==
 
==Descent 6==
#Charlemange, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
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#Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
 
#Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
 
#Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
 
#Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
 
#Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
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==Descent 8==
 
==Descent 8==
#Charlemange, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
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#Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
 
#Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
 
#Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
 
#Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
 
#Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855

Latest revision as of 15:34, 20 January 2013

Every proposed descent from Charlemagne to Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk

This page is writen by Will Johnson, if you have any comments please email me at wjhonson@aol.com

Thanks to Todd A Farmerie, and Peter Stewart for corrections. (cf. this discussion)

Contents

[edit] Descent 1

  1. Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
  2. Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
  3. Winilda (Guinidilda) de Ampurias living 877 (actually her ancestry is unknown)
  4. Suniare, Count of Besalu and Urgel died 15 Oct 950
  5. Borrell II, Count of Barcelona died 30 Sep 992
  6. Raimond Borrel I, Count of Barcelona died 24 Feb 1018/19
  7. Stephanie of Barcelona died 1077 (*line breaks here*, it is not certain that Stephanie was the daughter of Raimond, another source makes her daughter of Bernard de Foix; and it's fairly certain that Robert de Tosny was not her son)
  8. Robert de Tosny, seigneur of Belvoir (in 1063), died 4 Aug 1088
  9. Adelisa de Tosny, Dame of Belvoir (from 1129)
  10. Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk died between 1 Jan 1172 and 8 Mar 1177

[edit] Descent 2

  1. Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
  2. Berthe of /France/ died 829 + Angilbert "The Saint" of /Ponthieu/
  3. Arsende of /Ponthieu/ + Remigus, Count of /Rheims/ (*line probably breaks here*, the connection from Arsende to Bertha is doubtful)
  4. Bertha de /Remy/ + Raimund I, Count of /Toulouse/ and of Rouergue
  5. Eudes (Odo), Count of /Toulouse/ died 918/19
  6. Armengol of Toulouse, Count of Rouerge died 937 + Adelaide, Countess of /Rouergue/
  7. Richildis de /Rouergue/ , her parentage is speculated
  8. Borrell II, Count of /Barcelona/
  9. then as in Descent 1

[edit] Descent 3

Same as Descent 2 above, except in this descent Adelaide, Countess of Rouergue is made the daughter of Eudes (Odo) Count of Toulouse, instead of her husband being his son. (This connection is as doubtful.) Adelaide was not the daughter of the Toulouse line.

[edit] Descent 4

  1. Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
  2. Berthe of /France/ died 829 + Angilbert "The Saint" of /Ponthieu/
  3. Arsende of /Ponthieu/ + Remigus, Count of /Rheims/
  4. Bertha de /Remy/ + Raimund I, Count of /Toulouse/ and of Rouergue
  5. Eudes (Odo), Count of /Toulouse/ died 918/19
  6. Ermengaud, Count of /Rouergue/ died 937
  7. Raymond II, Count of /Rouergue/ died 961
  8. Luitgarde (Leodegarda ) of /Toulouse/, died 998 , her parentage is speculated
  9. Raimond Borrel I Count of /Barcelona/ died 25 Feb 1018/19
  10. Godehaut (Adela) of Barcelona died 1077
  11. Robert de Tosny, seigneur of Belvoir (in 1063), died 4 Aug 1088
  12. Adelisa de Tosny, Dame of Belvoir (from 1129)
  13. Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk died between 1 Jan 1172 and 8 Mar 1177

[edit] Descent 5

  1. Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
  2. Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
  3. Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
  4. Lothar II, King of Lorraine, King of /Italy/ died 8 Aug 869
  5. Berta of /Lorraine/ , illegitimate died 8 Mar 925
  6. Boso, Count of Arles -931, Marquis of /Tuscany/ 931-, died 936
  7. Bertha of /Tuscany/ (*line possibly breaks here*, no information on which of Raymond's wives was the mother of this hypothetical daughter Luitgarde)
  8. Luitgarde (Leodegarda ) of /Toulouse/ , toponym speculated died 998
  9. Raimond Borrel I Count of /Barcelona/ died 25 Feb 1018/19
  10. Godehaut (Adela) of Barcelona died 1077
  11. Robert de Tosny, seigneur of Belvoir (in 1063), died 4 Aug 1088
  12. Adelisa de Tosny, Dame of Belvoir (from 1129)
  13. Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk died between 1 Jan 1172 and 8 Mar 1177

[edit] Descent 6

  1. Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
  2. Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
  3. Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
  4. Louis II "le Jeune", King of Italy, /HR Emperor/ died 12 Aug 875
  5. Ermengarde of /Lorraine/ died before 22 Jun 896
  6. Willa of /Vienne/ died 14 Jun 929
  7. Willa of /Burgundy/ (*line possibly breaks here*, that Willa had Willa of Vienne as mother is speculation)
  8. Bertha of /Tuscany/
  9. Luitgarde (Leodegarda ) of /Toulouse/ , toponym speculated died 998
  10. Raimond Borrel I Count of /Barcelona/ died 25 Feb 1018/19
  11. Godehaut (Adela) of Barcelona died 1077
  12. Robert de Tosny, seigneur of Belvoir (in 1063), died 4 Aug 1088
  13. Adelisa de Tosny, Dame of Belvoir (from 1129)
  14. Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk died between 1 Jan 1172 and 8 Mar 1177

[edit] Descent 7

  1. Charlemagne, King of the Franks 768-814, /HR Emperor/ 800-814
  2. Louis (A) I, King of /France/ died 20 Jun 840
  3. Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
  4. Lothar II, King of Lorraine, King of /Italy/ died 8 Aug 869
  5. Berta of /Lorraine/ , illegitimate died 8 Mar 925
  6. Guido (Gui), Marquis of /Tuscany/ , Count of Lucca (*line possibly breaks here*, that the derivation of the Este can be traced to Bertha is probably speculation)
  7. Adalbert III, Marquise of /Tuscany/
  8. Oberto Azzo, Count of /Lucca/ & Este died 975
  9. Oberto II, Count of /Genoa/ , Tortone & Este died 1014
  10. Gisela de /Este/
  11. Oberto I, Marquis of /Liguria & Savona/ died abt 1034
  12. Oberto II, Marquis of /Liguria/ died before 1065
  13. Manfredo, Marquis of /Liguria/ died 1079
  14. Adelisa de /Savona/ died 1085/7 (*line breaks here* no evidence for the parentage of Adelisa, who is not called "de Savona")
  15. Adelisa de Tosny, Dame of Belvoir (from 1129)
  16. Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk died between 1 Jan 1172 and 8 Mar 1177

[edit] Descent 8

  1. Charlemagne, King of the Franks (from 768), Emperor of the West (from 800)
  2. Louis I, King of France died 20 Jun 840
  3. Lothaire, King of Italy, Bavaria and /HR Emperor/ died 29 Sep 855
  4. Louis II "le Jeune", King of Italy, /HR Emperor/ died 12 Aug 875
  5. Ermengarde of /Lorraine/ died before 22 Jun 896
  6. Willa of /Vienne/ died 14 Jun 929 (*line breaks here*, Willa may have been a daughter of Boso, but if so, she was from a wife prior to Ermengarde)
  7. Waldrada of /Burgundy/ (*line breaks here*, no evidence for Theubaldis as son of Waldrada)
  8. Theubaldis, Marquis of /Spoleto/ died before 961
  9. Guilla of /Spoleto/
  10. Oberto II, Count of /Genoa/ , Tortone & Este died 1014
  11. Gisela de /Este/
  12. Oberto I, Marquis of /Liguria & Savona/ died abt 1034
  13. Oberto II, Marquis of /Liguria/ died before 1065
  14. Manfredo, Marquis of /Liguria/ died 1079
  15. Adelisa of /Savona/ died 1085/7
  16. Adelisa de Tosny, Dame of Belvoir (from 1129)
  17. Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk died between 1 Jan 1172 and 8 Mar 1177
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