European link to the Mongols
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trace the two (perhaps) most notorious European potentates (bearing in mind that Vlad the Impaler was a Basarab) from Mongols. Some of the accounts I have seen are explicit in the suggestion that it is the descent from Mongols that explain these Men Behaving Badly, which smacks of racism. This is as an aside, because the genealogy is what it is, and whatever metainterpretation people draw from it have no bearing on the facts, one way or the other."</blockquote> | trace the two (perhaps) most notorious European potentates (bearing in mind that Vlad the Impaler was a Basarab) from Mongols. Some of the accounts I have seen are explicit in the suggestion that it is the descent from Mongols that explain these Men Behaving Badly, which smacks of racism. This is as an aside, because the genealogy is what it is, and whatever metainterpretation people draw from it have no bearing on the facts, one way or the other."</blockquote> | ||
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| − | Subj: | + | Paul Heath posted on Mar 5, 2007 to Gen-Medieval "Subj: Re: European link to the Mongols" |
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| − | Moncrieffe (HRH, page 84): "... Kutyen Khan took refuge in Hungary ... | + | |
| − | and married his daughter to King Bela IV's son, the future King | + | |
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Moncreiffe (HRH, page 101): "... There seems no reason, therefore, to | Moncreiffe (HRH, page 101): "... There seems no reason, therefore, to | ||
doubt that 'Thocomerius', father of Basarab the Great, Prince of | doubt that 'Thocomerius', father of Basarab the Great, Prince of | ||
| − | Valachia 1310-38, was one of two contemporary Tatar princes both named | + | Valachia 1310-38, was one of two contemporary Tatar princes both named Toktemir in that area, both great-grandsons of prince Juchi, first Khan of the Golden Horde (died 1224) ..."</blockquote> |
| − | Toktemir in that area, both great-grandsons of prince Juchi, first | + | |
| − | Khan of the Golden Horde (died 1224) ..." | + | |
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Warnes (Chronicle of the Russian Tsars, page 29): "... the grand | Warnes (Chronicle of the Russian Tsars, page 29): "... the grand | ||
prince married Yelena Glinskaya, a 23-year-old princess of Tatar | prince married Yelena Glinskaya, a 23-year-old princess of Tatar | ||
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that he was abdicating ... Simeon Bekbulatovich, a descendant of | that he was abdicating ... Simeon Bekbulatovich, a descendant of | ||
Genghis Khan, was enthroned as tsar ... Ivan resumed the tsardom once | Genghis Khan, was enthroned as tsar ... Ivan resumed the tsardom once | ||
| − | the year was over, and pensioned off Simeon by making him grand prince | + | the year was over, and pensioned off Simeon by making him grand prince of Tver." </blockquote> |
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