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**p. 170 "Harold reigned nine months and as many days. The earls Edwin and Morcar, who had withdrawn with their troops from the battle on hearing that he was dead, went off to London, and sent off their sister, queen Elgitha, to Chester . . [http://books.google.com/books?id=gpR0iz5GjYgC&printsec=frontcover&ots=w8oeIPDK6X&sig=neyQXj1xQta#PRA1-PA170,M1 The Chronicle of Florence of Worcester, Page 170]
 
**p. 170 "Harold reigned nine months and as many days. The earls Edwin and Morcar, who had withdrawn with their troops from the battle on hearing that he was dead, went off to London, and sent off their sister, queen Elgitha, to Chester . . [http://books.google.com/books?id=gpR0iz5GjYgC&printsec=frontcover&ots=w8oeIPDK6X&sig=neyQXj1xQta#PRA1-PA170,M1 The Chronicle of Florence of Worcester, Page 170]
 
**p. 456 "By his choice and gift, he [Edward King of England] was succeeded by earl Harold, son of Godwin earl of Wessex, by Gytha, sister of Sweyn, king of Denmark, father of St. Canute, the martyr. He [king Harold] had a son named Harold by his queen Aldgitha, daughter of earl Algar: the same year he fell in battle with William earl of Normandy, who succeeded him in the kingdom." [http://books.google.com/books?id=gpR0iz5GjYgC&printsec=frontcover&ots=w8oeIPDK6X&sig=neyQXj1xQta#PRA1-PA456,M1 The Chronicle of Florence of Worcester, Page 456]
 
**p. 456 "By his choice and gift, he [Edward King of England] was succeeded by earl Harold, son of Godwin earl of Wessex, by Gytha, sister of Sweyn, king of Denmark, father of St. Canute, the martyr. He [king Harold] had a son named Harold by his queen Aldgitha, daughter of earl Algar: the same year he fell in battle with William earl of Normandy, who succeeded him in the kingdom." [http://books.google.com/books?id=gpR0iz5GjYgC&printsec=frontcover&ots=w8oeIPDK6X&sig=neyQXj1xQta#PRA1-PA456,M1 The Chronicle of Florence of Worcester, Page 456]
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*Terry Booth in a posting to Gen-Med states : "Florence's statements on Godwine's banishment abt Sep 1051 are [http://books.google.com/books?id=gpR0iz5GjYgC&pg=RA1-PA486&vq=godiva#PRA1-PA152,M1 here] and on the preceding page. Florence's statements on Godwine's restoration 'to his former honors' abt 15 Sep 1052 are : [http://books.google.com/books?id=gpR0iz5GjYgC&pg=RA1-PA486&vq=godiva#PRA1-PA154,M1 here].  Malmesbury's statement is "Godwin and Sweyn retired to Flanders, and Harold to Ireland. His [Godwin's] earldom was given to Elgar, the son of Leofric, a man of active habits; who, receiving, governed it with ability, and readily restored it to him [Godwin] upon his return; and afterwards, on the death of Godwin, when Harold had obtained the dukedom of his father, he reclaimed it, though, by the accusation of his enemies, he was banished for a time." See [http://books.google.com/books?id=W2ANAAAAIAAJ&pg=coverpage#PPA220,M1 here]"
  
*Terry Booth points out that there are "...several Domesday entries which says Aelfgifu mother of Earl Morcar" like [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=7579161 this one]
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*Domesday
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**Terry Booth points out that there are "...several Domesday entries which says Aelfgifu mother of Earl Morcar" like [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=7579161 this one]
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**John P Ravilous in a posting to Gen-Med 15 Aug 2007 states : "In the listing provided in Domesday Book (1086) of the lands of the Church of Coventry, in Stanley Hundred, there is a description of the land of Binley.  The text states in part,  "Aldgid, the wife of Grifin, held this land. The Abbey bought it of Osbern the son of Richard", citing[http://books.google.com/books?id=zQMIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA14&dq=aldgid+uxor&ei=eJfDRrfqKIb07gKp8_XTDw&ie=ISO-8859-1 William Reades, trans. Domesday Book, for the County of Warwick] (Coventry: W. Reader, 1835), p. 14: 'Ipsa eccl'a ten' BILVEIE. Ibi sunt iii hidae T'ra e' viii car'. In d'nio e' una car' et iiii serui et x uill'i et vi bord' eu' v car'. Ibi viii ac' p'ti. Silua dimid' leu'u l'g' et una  q'rent' lat'. T. R. E. et modo ual' LX solid'.  Hanc tra' tenuit. Aldgid uxor Grifin. Hanc abb' emit ab 0' filio Ricardi.  Ipsa eccl'a ten' in CONDONE iii virg' t'rae. T'ra e' ii car'. Ibi sunt iiii uill'i et vi bord' eu' ii car' et i fiemo. Silua iii q'r' et xxx p'tic' l'g' et iii q'rent' lat'. Valuit et ual' xx solid'.'
  
*Terry Booth in a posting to Gen-Med states : "Florence's statements on Godwine's banishment abt Sep 1051 are [http://books.google.com/books?id=gpR0iz5GjYgC&pg=RA1-PA486&vq=godiva#PRA1-PA152,M1 here] and on the preceding page. Florence's statements on Godwine's restoration 'to his former honors' abt 15 Sep 1052 are : [http://books.google.com/books?id=gpR0iz5GjYgC&pg=RA1-PA486&vq=godiva#PRA1-PA154,M1 here]Malmesbury's statement is "Godwin and Sweyn retired to Flanders, and Harold to Ireland. His [Godwin's] earldom was given to Elgar, the son of Leofric, a man of active habits; who, receiving, governed it with ability, and readily restored it to him [Godwin] upon his return; and afterwards, on the death of Godwin, when Harold had obtained the dukedom of his father, he reclaimed it, though, by the accusation of his enemies, he was banished for a time." See [http://books.google.com/books?id=W2ANAAAAIAAJ&pg=coverpage#PPA220,M1 here]"
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*Orderic Vitalis
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**John P Ravilous in a posting to Gen-Med 16 Aug 2007 quotes Orderic Vitalis : 'Earl AElfgar built a monastery at Coventry......  And Godiva, his pious countess, lavished all her treasure upon the church: sending for goldsmiths she gave them her whole store of gold.....  These parents, so devoted to God and beneficent to the church, had a progeny both fair and greatly to be praised: Edwin, Morcar, and one daughter called Edith, who married first Gruffydd king of the Welsh and after his death Harold king of England.' [Chibnall, ed. The Ecclesiatical History of Orderic Vitalis, Book IV, p. 217.] And then John goes on to say :"Orderic was wrong on several details to be sure (Godiva as countess of AElfgar is somewhat noticeable).  Sorting out what is wrong from what is correct is an issue; see Part III, p. 139, where Orderic previously stated of Harold and his dealings with Edwin and Morcar, that 'he had taken to wife their sister Edith.  She had formerly been the wife of Gruffydd, a great Welsh prince, and had born him Bleddyn the heir to the throne and a daughter called Nest.'  Bleddyn was a successor to Gruffydd, but was Gruffydd's half-brother and not his son. The statement there was a daughter Nest does ring true, given what (little) we know of the first generations of the descendants of Gruffydd and Ealdgyth."
  
*John P Ravilous in a posting to Gen-Med 15 Aug 2007 states : "In the listing provided in Domesday Book (1086) of the lands of the Church of Coventry, in Stanley Hundred, there is a description of the land of Binley.  The text states in part,  "Aldgid, the wife of Grifin, held this land. The Abbey bought it of Osbern the son of Richard", citing[http://books.google.com/books?id=zQMIAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA14&dq=aldgid+uxor&ei=eJfDRrfqKIb07gKp8_XTDw&ie=ISO-8859-1 William Reades, trans. Domesday Book, for the County of Warwick] (Coventry: W. Reader, 1835), p. 14: 'Ipsa eccl'a ten' BILVEIE. Ibi sunt iii hidae T'ra e' viii car'. In d'nio e' una car' et iiii serui et x uill'i et vi bord' eu' v car'. Ibi viii ac' p'ti. Silua dimid' leu'u l'g' et una  q'rent' lat'. T. R. E. et modo ual' LX solid'.  Hanc tra' tenuit. Aldgid uxor Grifin. Hanc abb' emit ab 0' filio Ricardi.  Ipsa eccl'a ten' in CONDONE iii virg' t'rae. T'ra e' ii car'. Ibi sunt iiii uill'i et vi bord' eu' ii car' et i fiemo. Silua iii q'r' et xxx p'tic' l'g' et iii q'rent' lat'. Valuit et ual' xx solid'.'
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*William of Jumieges
*John P Ravilous in a posting to Gen-Med 16 Aug 2007 quotes Orderic Vitalis : 'Earl AElfgar built a monastery at Coventry......  And Godiva, his pious countess, lavished all her treasure upon the church: sending for goldsmiths she gave them her whole store of gold.....  These parents, so devoted to God and beneficent to the church, had a progeny both fair and greatly to be praised: Edwin, Morcar, and one daughter called Edith, who married first Gruffydd king of the Welsh and after his death Harold king of England.' [Chibnall, ed. The Ecclesiatical History of Orderic Vitalis, Book IV, p. 217.]  And then John goes on to say :"Orderic was wrong on several details to be sure (Godiva as countess of AElfgar is somewhat noticeable).  Sorting out what is wrong from what is correct is an issue; see Part III, p. 139, where Orderic previously stated of Harold and his dealings with Edwin and Morcar, that 'he had taken to wife their sister Edith.  She had formerly been the wife of Gruffydd, a great Welsh prince, and had born him Bleddyn the heir to the throne and a daughter called Nest.'  Bleddyn was a successor to Gruffydd, but was Gruffydd's half-brother and not his son.  The statement there was a daughter Nest does ring true, given what (little) we know of the first generations of the descendants of Gruffydd and Ealdgyth."
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**John P Ravilous in a posting to Gen-Med 16 Aug 2007 states : "In addition to Orderic Vitalis, we also have a statement by William of Jumièges concerning the parentage and marriages of Ealdyth.  E. A. Freeman quoted William of Jumièges (vii. 31) in stating that Harold Godwinsson married Aldith, daughter of Earl Al[f]gar, after the death of her 1st husband Gruffydd: "Grithfridi quoque conjugem Aldith, praeclari Comitis Algari filiam, sibi uxorem junxit. " [E. A. Freeman, The History of the Norman Conquest of England (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1870), II:659]
*John P Ravilous in a posting to Gen-Med 16 Aug 2007 states : "In addition to Orderic Vitalis, we also have a statement by William of Jumièges concerning the parentage and marriages of Ealdyth.  E. A. Freeman quoted William of Jumièges (vii. 31) in stating that Harold Godwinsson married Aldith, daughter of Earl Al[f]gar, after the death of her 1st husband Gruffydd: "Grithfridi quoque conjugem Aldith, praeclari Comitis Algari filiam, sibi uxorem junxit. " [E. A. Freeman, The History of the Norman Conquest of England (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1870), II:659]
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