Mother of William Longespee
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See also [http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/msg/03e49a9c305eadf5?dmode=source this thread] where David Faris quoting Douglas Richardson quotes:<blockquote>The first appearance of contemporary information about Ida became known in 1979 with the publication in the Wiltshire Record Society 35:143,188 of two charters found in the Bradenstoke Priory Cartulary in which William Longespee refers (in Latin) to his mother, Countess Ida ("Comitissa Ida, mater mea"). Doug reports his follow-up research: "I believe I first became aware of the actual charters as published by Vera London. I used to order a good many books by interlibrary loan, especially anything with charters. Afterwards I saw Mr. Evans' note attempting to identify Countess Ida as a Countess Ida of the continental Europe. I believe I am the first person to consider Roger Bigod's wife, Ida, as the Countess Ida who was William Longespee's mother. I went through all the lists of English earls in Complete Peerage until I found one with a wife Ida in the right time period. In fact, I may have known of Earl Roger's wife Ida before I saw Charles Evans' note. I don't recall the exact chain of events. I never seriously considered Mr. Evans' identification of Countess Ida. As such, I am reasonbly certain I already had Roger Bigod's wife in mind when I found Evans' published note.</blockquote> | See also [http://groups.google.com/group/soc.genealogy.medieval/msg/03e49a9c305eadf5?dmode=source this thread] where David Faris quoting Douglas Richardson quotes:<blockquote>The first appearance of contemporary information about Ida became known in 1979 with the publication in the Wiltshire Record Society 35:143,188 of two charters found in the Bradenstoke Priory Cartulary in which William Longespee refers (in Latin) to his mother, Countess Ida ("Comitissa Ida, mater mea"). Doug reports his follow-up research: "I believe I first became aware of the actual charters as published by Vera London. I used to order a good many books by interlibrary loan, especially anything with charters. Afterwards I saw Mr. Evans' note attempting to identify Countess Ida as a Countess Ida of the continental Europe. I believe I am the first person to consider Roger Bigod's wife, Ida, as the Countess Ida who was William Longespee's mother. I went through all the lists of English earls in Complete Peerage until I found one with a wife Ida in the right time period. In fact, I may have known of Earl Roger's wife Ida before I saw Charles Evans' note. I don't recall the exact chain of events. I never seriously considered Mr. Evans' identification of Countess Ida. As such, I am reasonbly certain I already had Roger Bigod's wife in mind when I found Evans' published note.</blockquote> | ||
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| + | In 2002 appeared an article by Raymond W "Ray" Phair "William Longespee, Ralph Bigod, and Countess Ida," The American Genealogist 77:4 (Oct 2002) (this citation supplied by Hal Bradley). This article was the first to recognize that by combining the information from the Bradenstoke Prior Cartulary with the information about William's brother being a Ralph Bigod, that the identification of Ida could be firmly established. Although prior notices have stated or implied who she was, the evidence was first put on a solid grounding by Ray Phair. | ||
Independently, Ida's surname was cited by Mark Morris: | Independently, Ida's surname was cited by Mark Morris: | ||
