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'''Susan Wiley''', (b Apr 18, 1957), daughter of Clark Wiley and his wife Irene, the famous case of the "feral child" called "Genie" by a few scientists, who was raised under severe conditions until she was 13 years old. She was kept isolated in a back bedroom, locked in a bed surrounded by chicken-wire at night and strapped to a potty chair by day. She couldn't walk normally, couldn't speak and had abnormal reactions. <blockquote> Copyright 2007, Will Johnson, [mailto:wjhonson@aol.com wjhonson@aol.com], Professional Genealogist, All Rights Reserved. This page is locked, if you'd like to add or correct anything, please email me. </blockquote> If you enjoy the research done here, consider making a [http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=wjhonson@aol.com&amount=15.00&item_name=Genie_Wiley_Fund financial contribution] to keep research like this going. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wjhonson/WileyHouse.jpg <center>The Wiley House Above</center> ---- ==Susan Wiley== <table><tr><td>http://www.homeworking.ws/children/genie-wiley.jpg</td><td> What did I know when I started this article about Genie? Genie is called variously 13 or 13 1/2 in postings describing when she was discovered by authorities in 1970. I had heard of the case, but until I started researching I had no idea of her surname, the names of her parents, siblings or where they lived except the vague "Los Angeles" area. Various postings online claim that her real name has been kept private. I had thought that was because documents were sealed, but as you see shortly, I was wrong. Her situation was discovered in 1970, and it's been reported that she was found when her mother, escaping from her abusive husband, went to social services. I knew that she was examined in various laboratory settings, that her father shot himself, and that her mother was living for some time afterwards and eventually at some point got custody of her again. That is all I knew when I first created this page to start my research.</td> </tr></table> On [[Mar 6]], 2007, an editor on Wikipedia, added an newspaper article as an external link to the article on Genie, which identifies the parents as "Clark Wiley and his wife Irene". Many online postings state that the father shot and killed himself before he could be arrainged. Armed with this, and the useful tool that a name like "Clark Wiley" is quite rare, I went looking for his death entry and found it. In trying to find an obit, I found much more. An article in the ''Valley News'' of Van Nuys, California, Dec 17, 1970, (page 23C "Felony Charge Dismissed in Wiley Child Abuse Case") gives her name as "Susan". It repeats her parents names as above and adds that she had a brother or half-brother named John Wiley, calling him "Clark's son". In this same article, Irene is called "of Alhambra, California", although their home is described as being "in Arcadia". In 1970, in the Los Angeles suburb of Arcadia. Susan "Genie" was taken into protective custody. A site visitor has told me that there is a book about this case, which could possibly explain why Irene is called both of Alhambra and of Arcadia. It appears possible that Irene and Clark seperated and she went, taking Susan "Genie" with her, to live with her own mother. It was possibly at *this* time that she went to Social Services, and then they would have come to her *new* albeit temporary home with her mother, who presumably would be living in Alhambra. IF TRUE, that would then explain a number of things. Clark Wiley's mother had been "killed by a hit and run driver", and this is used to explain his bizarre actions, but as ABC has just reported [http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4873347&page=1 here], Clark acted bizarre long before this incident, killing one child through neglect and possibly a second. "Just before he was due in court to be arraigned for child abuse, he shot and killed himself", as the Valley News reports, adding that he was 70 years old, and killed himself on Nov 20. The article also states that Mrs Wiley is 50 years old. The person who sent me the above picture of the house states that it is in Temple City, California. John Wiley appears in the Temple City High School year book for one year, but after the story broke, he declined to have a picture taken. Dorothy Irene (Oglesby) Wiley died in 2003 in Los Angeles. Susan is supposed to still be alive in an adult-care home somewhere in California. Her brother John has been reported to me as having been supposed to have died, but ABCnews has just interviewed him [http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4873347&page=1 here]. He is now living in Ohio. Some editors at Wikipedia have been quite vocal about trying to suppress her real name from her article there, in addition of course to suppressing her surname, and details about her family. The initial social worker on the case, recommended on 5 Nov 1970, that Susan Wiley "Genie" be removed from her parents and made a dependent ward of the state. Susan Wiley "Genie" had a state appointed attorney and advocate John Miner. Susan "Genie" lived first at the Children's Hospital, but scientist Jean Butler stating that she had exposed her to German measles, took her to her own home in quarentine. Genie lived there, and other investigators were denied access to her while Jean applied to be her foster parent. Her application was denied. Shortly afterward, Susan "Genie" was placed as a foster child with David and Marilyn Rigler, in 1971. David was a psychologist at Children's Hospital, and Marilyn was a graduate student in human development, who would become Genie's first teacher. She lived with the Riglers and their children in their home near Children's Hospital for about four years. At this time she went to live with her mother, who being acquitted of all charges, now wanted to take care of her. But she found it too difficult and so Genie was moved to the "Beatrice Mansfield family home" in 1975. She was placed with the Crocketts about 1977. Susan's mother Irene Wiley appears in one of these documents dated Jan 1974. And again Irene signs an authorization form in Jun 1975. Susan Wiley was placed at Immaculate Heart College 1973, the "Sophia T Salvin School" 1973-1974, "Diane S Leichmann School" 1974-5, and the Lincoln School 1976-7. Irene Wiley filed a lawsuit against "Hansen, Rigler, Kent, Curtiss, and Children's Hospital of Los Angeles" charging them with "excessive and outrageous testing....[claiming] the researchers gave testing priority over Genie's welfare, pushing her beyond the limites of her endurance." The PBS program "The Wild Child", dated 4 Mar 1997 includes a statement that : "...Genie now lives in an adult foster care home in southern California." ===Primary documentation=== *[http://content.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt0q2nc69q&chunk.id=c01-1.2.7.5&brand=oac Finding Aid for the Collection of Research Materials related to Linguistic-Psychological Studies of Genie, Section 4 "Guardianship"] *[http://content.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt0q2nc69q&chunk.id=c02-1.2.7.9.5&brand=oac Finding Aid for the Collection of Research Materials related to Linguistic-Psychological Studies of Genie, Section 8C "Family History"] *[http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/default.aspx?htx=view&dbid=50155&iid=NEWS-CA-TH_DA_RE.1970_11_17_0012&r=an&rc=2605%2c1146%2c2697%2c1192%3b2716%2c1146%2c2827%2c1192&fn=&ln=Record+Clark+Wiley+from+1960-2007&st=d&ssrc=&pid=508937228 ''The Daily Report'' (Ontario, California)], 17 Nov 1970, page A-2, "Parents Charged in Girl's Imprisonment" : [picture of Susan] "Susan Wiley, a teenager with the mentality of a 12 to 18 month old infant, was kept a prisoner in the home of her elderly parents for 13 years. No reason was given for her confinement...." "...The girl's plight was discovered by a social worker who visited the home...the family applied for welfare aid and an eligibility worker was sent to their home.... A son John, 18, was sent to live with his grandparents following the arrest of his parents." *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=CAdeath1940%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Clark&gsln=Wiley&sx=&gs1co=2%2cUnited+States+&gs1pl=7%2cCalifornia&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&ufr=0&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&o_it=21416&fh=0&recid=7913222&recoff=1+2 California Death Index 1940-97] showing "Clark G Wiley born 29 Mar 1901 Oregon, died 20 Nov 1970 Los Angeles County, California *[http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=view&dbid=7683&iid=NEWS-CA-VA_NE.1970_12_17_0114&r=an&rc=3599,308,3847,450;3825,1246,3930,1292;3442,1292,3554,1338;3813,1654,3921,1700;3446,1879,3571,1925;3619,2700,3740,2746;3823,4146,3946,4192;4215,704,4330,750;4013,929,4135,975;4269,1121,4385,1167;4378,2113,4490,2159;4017,2267,4139,2313&fn=&ln=Record+Clark+Wiley+from+1970-1970&st=d&ssrc=&pid=508970098 ''Valley News'' (Van Nuys, CA), Dec 17, 1970, page 23C "Felony Charge Dismissed in Wiley Child Abuse Case"] *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=0&f2=&f1=Wiley&sx=&f9=&f5=&f4=&rg_f3__date=&rs_f3__date=0&f6=&f7=Oglesby&gskw=&prox=1&db=cabirth1905&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3 California Birth Index 1905-1995] showing "Susan M Wiley born 18 Apr 1957 Los Angeles County, California. Mother's maiden name: Oglesby". Searching on *any* child born to father Wiley and mother Oglesby we get the whole family: "Dorothy Irene Wiley born 2 Jun 1948, Robert Clark Wiley born 15 Sep 1949, John Gray Wiley born 11 Mar 1952, and Susan [as above]. All born in Los Angeles County." *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=0&f1=&f2=&f0=wiley&sx=&f4Day=&f4Month=&f4Year=&f6=&f5Day=&f5Month=&f5Year=&f7=&f10=&f9=Oglesby&f3=&f8=&prox=1&f4=++&f5=++&db=cadeath1940&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3 California Death Index 1940-1997] showing "Dorothy Irene Wiley born Jun 2, 1948 California, died Aug 19, 1948 Los Angeles County, California. Mother's maiden name Oglesby" and "Robert Clark Wiley born Sep 15, 1949 California, died Sep 17, 1949 Los Angeles County, California. Mother's maiden name Oglesby" ===Secondary Sources=== *[http://www.mymultiplesclerosis.co.uk/misc/wild-child.html An article which gives her real surname] and a photograph *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child) "Genie"] on Wikipedia *[http://highschoolbioethics.georgetown.edu/units/unit3_4.html An article] describing Genie's life with the Riglers *[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2112gchild.html "Secret of the Wild Child"], transcript of a show on Nova, PBS, 4 Mar 1997 *[http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1992/04/20/1992_04_20_043_TNY_CARDS_000359120 Abstract of "Il-A Silent Childhood"] by Russ Rymer, abstracted in ''The New Yorker'' 20 Apr 1992, page 43 *[http://www.psych.utah.edu/classes/2007_fall/3220_001/readings/Rymer,%20R.%20(1992)%20Part%20II.pdf "Annals of Science - A Silent Childhood - II"], by Russ Rymer, 20 Apr 1992, ''The New Yorker'' (PDF, 29 pages) *[http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4873347&page=1 "Raised by a Tyrant, Suffering a Sibling's Abuse"], ABCnews, 19 May 2008, Susan Donaldson James. Thanks to site reader Jan H. Jørgensen for alerting me to this news story. ===Further reading=== These two books were pointed out to me by a page reader Kelly Weedon, 2008. *"Genie: A scientific tragedy", by Russ Rymer *A paragraph on Genie appears in the book: "Savage Girls and Wild Boys: A History of Feral Children", by Michael Newton *At the time of her parents arrest, their story was widely publicized, naming them as Clark Wiley, Irene, and Susan Wiley and her brother John. I've provided five full transcripts at the bottom of this paragraph. Here are just a few of the papers in which her name was reported as "Susan Wiley" : Albuquerque Journal (Albuquerque, New Mexico); Bennington Banner (Bennington, Vermont); Holland Evening Sentinel (Holland, Michigan); Iowa City Press Citizen (Iowa City, Iowa); Kingsport News (Kingsport, Tennessee); Lima News (Lima, Ohio); News Journal (Mansfield, Ohio); Post Crescent (Appleton, Wisconsin); Yuma Daily Sun (Yuma, Arizona); Bucks County Courier Times (Levittown, Pennsylvania); Chronicle Telegram, The (Elyria, Ohio); Coshocton Tribune (Coshocton, Ohio); Derrick (Oil City, Pennsylvania); El Paso Herald-Post (El Paso, Texas); Florence Morning News (Florence, South Carolina); Fond Du Lac Commonwealth Reporter (Fond Du Lac, Wisconsin); Manitowoc Herald Times (Manitowoc, Wisconsin); Morning Herald (Uniontown, Pennsylvania); Nevada State Journal (Reno, Nevada); Red Bluff Daily News (Red Bluff, California); San Antonio Express (San Antonio, Texas); Sheboygan Press (Sheboygan, Wisconsin); Stevens Point Daily Journal (Stevens Point, Wisconsin); The Advocate (Newark, Ohio); The Capital (Annapolis, Maryland); The Chillicothe Constitution Tribune (Chillicothe, Missouri); The Daily Courier (Connellsville, Pennsylvania); The Daily Report (Ontario, California); The Daily Times News (Burlington, North Carolina); The Daily Tribune (Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin); The Gettysburg Times (Gettysburg, Pennsylvania); The Progress (Clearfield, Pennsylvania); The Times Recorder (Zanesville, Ohio); The Zanesville Signal (Zanesville, Ohio); Valley News (Van Nuys, California) **[http://content.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=7044&iid=NEWS-WI-OS_DA_NO.1970_11_17_0001&rc=3545,362,3675,416;941,3983,1045,4025;1066,3983,1190,4025&pid=508937217&ssrc=&fn=&ln=Record+Clark+Wiley+from+1970-1970&st=g ''Oshkosh Daily Northwestern'' (Oshkosh, Wisconsin)] 17 Nov 1970, page 1 ***"Parents Are Arrested for Retarding Child" transcribed [[Susan_Wiley/Oshkosh_Article|here]] **[http://content.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=7044&iid=NEWS-WI-OS_DA_NO.1970_11_20_0001&rc=3460,371,3579,421;2547,2983,2623,3025;2665,3404,2748,3446;3571,2587,3650,2629;3777,3017,3879,3059;3092,3596,3193,3638;3213,3596,3334,3638;3729,3546,3839,3588;3860,3546,3970,3588;179,6850,262,6892&pid=508940289&ssrc=&fn=&ln=Record+Clark+Wiley+from+1970-1970&st=g ''Oshkosh Daily Northwestern'' (Oshkosh, Wisconsin)] 20 Nov 1970, page 1 ***"Man Who Kept Daughter in Diapers is Shot" transcribed [[Susan_Wiley/Oshkosh_Article_2|here]] **[http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=view&dbid=6169&iid=newsrenoeg.1970_11_18_0023&rc=229,2200,331,2242;351,2200,473,2242;4343,183,4449,229&fn=&ln=Record+Clark+Wiley+from+1970-1970&st=d&ssrc=&pid=508938263 ''Reno Evening Gazette'' (Reno, Nevada)] 18 Nov 1970 ***"Doctors claim girl isolated since birth" transcribed [[Susan_Wiley/Reno_Article|here]] **[http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=view&dbid=6169&iid=newsrenoeg.1970_11_20_0001&rc=3111,467,3240,513;2108,2567,2218,2609;2239,2567,2370,2609&fn=&ln=Record+Clark+Wiley+from+1970-1970&st=d&ssrc=&pid=508940289 ''Reno Evening Gazette'' (Reno, Nevada)] 20 Nov 1970 ***"Child isolation father commits suicide — police" transcribed [[Susan_Wiley/Reno_Article_2|here]] **[http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=view&dbid=6169&iid=newsrenoeg.1970_11_21_0012&rc=4130,33,4235,83;273,2233,354,2258;440,2596,512,2621;278,3217,360,3242;417,3579,497,3604;335,3867,414,3892;542,4279,602,4304;336,5550,414,5575;1449,1863,1521,1905;1059,3217,1138,3242;1046,3421,1126,3446;847,4538,926,4563;1217,4642,1300,4667;1062,5783,1110,5808;2380,4612,2483,4654;1846,4658,1963,4700&fn=&ln=Record+Clark+Wiley+from+1970-1970&st=d&ssrc=&pid=508941324 ''Reno Evening Gazette'' (Reno, Nevada)] 21 Nov 1970 ***"Curiosity seekers drive accused man to suicide" transcribed [[Susan_Wiley/Reno_Article_3|here]] ==Clark G Wiley== <table><tr><td>http://www.homeworking.ws/children/clark-wiley.jpg</td><td>Clark G Wiley was born 29 Mar 1901 in Oregon. His early life is still a mystery. No one named Wiley and born in Oregon, listed in the 1930, 1920 or 1910 census fits him well. His still-living son John Wiley states that Clark was "raised by a bar-girl in a bordello". (See [http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4804490&page=1 here]) Clark Wiley married Dorothy Irene Oglesby sometime before 1948 and probably in California, possibly in Los Angeles County where her parents lived. Clark and Irene had four children, all born in Los Angeles County, California but two died young: #Dorothy Irene Wiley born 2 Jun 1948, died 19 Aug 1948 #Robert Clark Wiley born 15 Sep 1949, died 17 Sep 1949 #John Gray Wiley born 11 Mar 1952 #Susan M Wiley born 18 Apr 1957 Clark's middle name could possibly be "Gray" as his second son carries that middle name. Clark Wiley has been described as some sort of recluse. He was the main power in the home, his wife Dorothy being nearly blind was totally dependent on him. Clark and Dorothy were the parents of Susan Wiley called "Genie" in popular books and scientific papers about her case. </td></tr></table> Clark and Dorothy were arrested once the authorities found that Susan had been kept virtually isolated from normal human contact her entire life of thirteen years. Susan still wore diapers, couldn't talk, and was fed a substandard diet which probably stunted her growth. From years of confinement, her muscles had not developed normally. The family were described as "strange people who kept to themselves." Just moments before his scheduled arraignment, with his wife Dorothy, on Felony Child Abuse charges, Clark Wiley shot himself in the head 20 Nov 1970, using a 38-revolver. His body was found in their home, by their son John aged 18. Clark's death was handled as a suicide, the revolver and a brief note he had left, were both found nearby. Dorothy had entered a plea of "not guilty" just prior to being told, at the arraignment, that Clark was dead. Charges against Dorothy were subsequently dropped. ===Primary documentation for 2=== *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=0&f2=&f1=Wiley&sx=&f9=&f5=&f4=&rg_f3__date=&rs_f3__date=0&f6=&f7=Oglesby&gskw=&prox=1&db=cabirth1905&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3 California Birth Index 1905-1995] showing "Susan M Wiley born 18 Apr 1957 Los Angeles County, California. Mother's maiden name: Oglesby". Searching on *any* child born to father Wiley and mother Oglesby we get the whole family: "Dorothy Irene Wiley born 2 Jun 1948, Robert Clark Wiley born 15 Sep 1949, John Gray Wiley born 11 Mar 1952, and Susan [as above]. All born in Los Angeles County." *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=CAdeath1940%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Clark&gsln=Wiley&sx=&gs1co=2%2cUnited+States+&gs1pl=7%2cCalifornia&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&ufr=0&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&o_it=21416&fh=0&recid=7913222&recoff=1+2 California Death Index 1940-97] showing "Clark G Wiley born 29 Mar 1901 Oregon, died 20 Nov 1970 Los Angeles County, California *[http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=view&dbid=7683&iid=NEWS-CA-VA_NE.1970_12_17_0114&r=an&rc=3599,308,3847,450;3825,1246,3930,1292;3442,1292,3554,1338;3813,1654,3921,1700;3446,1879,3571,1925;3619,2700,3740,2746;3823,4146,3946,4192;4215,704,4330,750;4013,929,4135,975;4269,1121,4385,1167;4378,2113,4490,2159;4017,2267,4139,2313&fn=&ln=Record+Clark+Wiley+from+1970-1970&st=d&ssrc=&pid=508970098 ''Valley News'' (Van Nuys, CA), Dec 17, 1970, page 23C "Felony Charge Dismissed in Wiley Child Abuse Case"] *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=0&f1=&f2=&f0=wiley&sx=&f4Day=&f4Month=&f4Year=&f6=&f5Day=&f5Month=&f5Year=&f7=&f10=&f9=Oglesby&f3=&f8=&prox=1&f4=++&f5=++&db=cadeath1940&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3 California Death Index 1940-1997] showing "Dorothy Irene Wiley born Jun 2, 1948 California, died Aug 19, 1948 Los Angeles County, California. Mother's maiden name Oglesby" and "Robert Clark Wiley born Sep 15, 1949 California, died Sep 17, 1949 Los Angeles County, California. Mother's maiden name Oglesby" ==Dorothy Irene Oglesby== <table><tr><td>http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_wiley_080519_mn.jpg</td><td>The picture on the far-left shows Dorothy Irene (Oglesby) Wiley with her two surviving children John and Susan "Genie". The side-by-side photo is of that son John Wiley today. The original photo is at the ABCnews article linked below in Sources</td></tr></table> Dorothy Irene Oglesby was born probably about 1920. She is described as "age 50" in newspaper accounts dated Nov 1970. She married Clark G Wiley and they had four children, two of whom survived childhood. The condition of her daughter Genie was discovered when she left her abusive husband and went to stay with her own parents, while seeking public assistance. The child was initially made a ward of the state. Much later Irene regained custody but finding Genie too much to handle, she was placed with a series of foster homes. Dorothy was still living in 1993/5 when there are some letters from her in the "Finding Aid" file above. An Oglesby relative informs me that "My Aunt Irene died in 2003 in Los Angeles". ===Secondary sources for 3=== *[http://genforum.genealogy.com/oglesby/messages/1288.html "Any Connections to Oglesby line"], posting by Donna Oglesby 16 July 2007 to the Oglesby forum at genforum.genealogy.com stating that Dorothy parent's were : "Robert Franklin Oglesby ... and his wife Beatrice Palmer. Robert died July 1982 in Ontario California and buried in Ontario Cemetery, California. Beatrice died 24 February 1985 and is buried next to her husband, in Ontario California." *[http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=:3166627&id=I622739977 "Irene Oglesby"], pedigree view, "Underwood" by Bill Underwood, 22 Apr 2008, hosted in the Rootsweb WorldConnect Project showing her mother as "Beatrice Palmer" and Beatrice' parents as "Thomas Jefferson Palmer and Teresa M Thomas" *[http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4804490&page=1 "Wild Child Speechless After Tortured Life"], ABCnews, 7 May 2008, Susan Donaldson James. *[http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4873347&page=1 "Raised by a Tyrant, Suffering a Sibling's Abuse"], ABCnews, 19 May 2008, Susan Donaldson James. Thanks to site reader Jan H. Jørgensen for alerting me to this news story. ==Mr Wiley== ==Mrs Wiley== Killed by an "out-of-control pickup trunk" which "slammed into [her] and dragged her mangled body down the street" in California when "John Wiley was 6 years old". (see [http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4873347&page=1 ABCnews "Raised by a Tyrant..."]) John was born in 1952 so this would have happened in 1958/9. ===Sources=== *[http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4873347&page=1 "Raised by a Tyrant, Suffering a Sibling's Abuse"], ABCnews, 19 May 2008, Susan Donaldson James. Thanks to site reader Jan H. Jørgensen for alerting me to this news story. ==Robert Franklin Oglesby== Robert Franklin Oglesby was born 29 Dec 1898 in either Tennessee or Texas and died 2 Jul 1982 in Los Angeles County, California. ===Primary documents for 6=== *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=Robert&gsln=Oglesby&sx=&f1=&f2=&f3=&f20=&f16=&f15=&rg_f14__date=&rs_f14__date=0&f18=&gskw=&prox=1&db=ww1draft&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=39&fh=24&recid=17283580&recoff=1+3 World War I Draft Registration] : "Robert Franklin Oglesby, born 29 Dec 1898, Farmer, working for W H Oglesby, nearest relative W H Oglesby, registered in Jackson County, Oklahoma *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=CAdeath1940%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Robert&gsln=Oglesby&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&pcat=34&fh=2&recid=5454212&recoff=1+2 Social Security Death Index] : "Robert Franklin Oglesby, born 29 Dec 1898 Tennessee, Died 2 Jul 1982 Los Angeles [County]" ===Secondary sources for 6=== *[http://genforum.genealogy.com/oglesby/messages/1288.html "Any Connections to Oglesby line"], posting by Donna Oglesby 16 July 2007 to the Oglesby forum at genforum.genealogy.com stating that Dorothy parent's were : "Robert Franklin Oglesby ... and his wife Beatrice Palmer. Robert died July 1982 in Ontario California and buried in Ontario Cemetery, California. Beatrice died 24 February 1985 and is buried next to her husband, in Ontario California." ==Beatrice Palmer== Beatrice Palmer was born 2 Nov 1902 in Oklahoma, the daughter of Thomas J Palmer and his wife Theresa. Beatrice married Robert Franklin Oglesby about 1920, probably at Altus, Jackson County, Oklahoma where they were both living at the time. They had four children, at least the first two in Oklahoma. By 1938 the family had moved to Los Angeles County where they lived until at least 1956. Beatrice died 24 February 1985 and is buried next to her husband, in Ontario, San Bernardino County, California. ===Primary sources for 7=== *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=1910USCenIndex%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Beatrice&gsln=Palmer&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&pcat=35&fh=48&recid=66218035&recoff=1+2 1910 Census of Altus, Jackson County, Oklahoma] : "Thomas J Palmer, 44, AR/GA/MS; Theresa 35 AR/AR/AR; Virgie L 13; Elmore T 9; Beatrice 7; Harrison S 6; Hurston H 3; Not Named 1/12" *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&db=1920usfedcen%2c&gsfn=Beatrice&gsln=Palmer&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=64&recid=75756742&recoff=1+2&fsk=CIAAF60DfLkm&bsk=&pgoff= 1920 Census of Altus, Jackson County, Oklahoma] : "T J Palmer, 60, Kansas; Thanasi 40 AR; Beatrice 17 OK; Ceymore 15 OK; Hastin 12 OK" *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=0&gsfn=beatris&gsln=Oglesby&sx=&f12=&f4=&f7=&f15=&rg_81004011__date=&rs_81004011__date=0&f18=&f14__n=&_8000C002=&_80008002=&_80018002=&f10=&f16=&gskw=&prox=1&db=1930usfedcen&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=35&fh=0&recid=88961764&recoff=1+2 1930 Altus, Jackson County, Oklahoma]: "Franklin R Oglesby 32, Beatris 27, Irene 9, Doile 7" *California Voter Registration, Los Angeles County, Belvedere Precinct: **[http://content.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1249&iid=losangelescounty_41-0227&rc=1799,2091,1866,2107;1924,2092,1990,2105&pid=1343442371&ssrc=&fn=Beatrice&ln=Oglesby&st=g 1938] : "Mrs Beatrice Oglesby, 3971 Snow dr, housewife, did not state [party affiliation]; Robert F Oglesby, 3971 Snow dr, service station, Democrat" **[http://content.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1249&iid=losangelescounty_46-0262&rc=1759,1378,1825,1394;1883,1378,1949,1391;1758,1402,1826,1419&pid=1661427886&ssrc=&fn=Beatrice&ln=Oglesby&st=g 1940] same as 1938 **[http://content.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1249&iid=losangelescounty_58-0291&rc=1766,1822,1833,1839;1893,1821,1958,1835&pid=2368441024&ssrc=&fn=Beatrice&ln=Oglesby&st=g 1942] : "Mrs Beatrice Oglesby, 1035 N Hazard Av, housewife, Democrat; Robert F Oglesby, 1035 N Hazard av, drill operator, Democrat" **[http://content.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1249&iid=losangelescounty_64-0304&rc=1110,934,1176,949;1237,933,1303,946&pid=2842666746&ssrc=&fn=Beatrice&ln=Oglesby&st=g 1946] name and address the same, no occupations listed for anyone on the page **[http://content.ancestry.com/browse/view.aspx?dbid=1249&iid=losangelescounty_90-0558&rc=1094,1115,1162,1131;1217,1114,1283,1127&pid=455547003&ssrc=&fn=Beatrice&ln=Oglesby&st=g 1954] same as above *[http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=ssdi%2c&rank=0&gsfn=Beatrice&gsln=Oglesby&sx=&gs1co=1%2cAll+Countries&gs1pl=1%2c+&year=&yearend=&sbo=0&sbor=&ufr=0&wp=4%3b_80000002%3b_80000003&srchb=r&prox=1&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&o_iid=21416&o_lid=21416&pcat=34&fh=4&recid=53929541&recoff=1+2 Social Security Death Index] : "Beatrice Oglesby, born 2 Nov 1902, died Feb 1985, last residence Ontario, San Bernardino County, California" ===Secondary sources for 7=== *[http://genforum.genealogy.com/oglesby/messages/1288.html "Any Connections to Oglesby line"], posting by Donna Oglesby 16 July 2007 to the Oglesby forum at genforum.genealogy.com stating that Dorothy parent's were : "Robert Franklin Oglesby ... and his wife Beatrice Palmer. Robert died July 1982 in Ontario California and buried in Ontario Cemetery, California. Beatrice died 24 February 1985 and is buried next to her husband, in Ontario California." [[Category:True crime]] [[Category:California]] [[Category:Tennessee]]
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