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==Secondary sources== *Posting by D Spencer Hines to Gen-Med 18 Sep 2007<blockquote>One of the most interesting of these Guarantors & Counsellors of King John at Runnemede is Piers Fitz Herbert, because he is generally so less well known than many others. Here are some additional reported details on Piers: Piers Fitz Herbert was knight of 15 knights' fees in Berkshire and Hampshire. Matthew Paris says he was one of "the evil counsellors of King John". John certainly favored him with many commissions. Piers married twice, first in 1204 to Alice, widow of John Fitz Richard, Constable of Chester, and daughter of Roger Fitz Richard by Alice de Vere, "Alice of Essex", which made him an uncle by marriage to the Surety John Fitz Robert and stepgrandfather of the Surety John de Lacy. Piers de Herbert's second marriage was to Isabel, sister to Henry de Ferrers. He died in 1235 and was buried in Reading Abbey. Among other children, Piers had a son, Reynold Fitz Piers, who carried on the family line. (Source: Arthur Edwin Bye, op. cit., p. 186)</blockquote>
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